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		<title>By: yokohead</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yokohead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[---From Amazon---
The availability of content in the Kindle Store depends on the author or publisher that owns rights to the content.

We don&#039;t limit the number of Kindles that can be registered to an Amazon.com account. Kindle books can only be downloaded on up to six devices, depending on licensing limits specified by the publisher.
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There&#039;s more but it&#039;s basically cut/paste.  No answer on where the per-publisher limits are posted before or during purchase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;From Amazon&#8212;<br />
The availability of content in the Kindle Store depends on the author or publisher that owns rights to the content.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t limit the number of Kindles that can be registered to an Amazon.com account. Kindle books can only be downloaded on up to six devices, depending on licensing limits specified by the publisher.<br />
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<p>There&#8217;s more but it&#8217;s basically cut/paste.  No answer on where the per-publisher limits are posted before or during purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary complaints mounting about Amazon Kindle&#8217;s DRM &#124; Gravitational Pull</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary complaints mounting about Amazon Kindle&#8217;s DRM &#124; Gravitational Pull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 6/21 The Kindle 2 Review, without any real confirmation, is claiming that there is no per-book download limit and that the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: switch11</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[switch11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just because a few customer service reps are confused doesn&#039;t change the policy. 

6 kindle devices; unlimited downloads. 

would you care to let us know the books for which the 6 devices limit isn&#039;t true. 

and you do realize that its clearly a publisher setting. even if books with a less than 6 devices limit exist, the default for the vast majority of books is 6. your article clearly attacks amazon as being behind the alleged download and device limitations even though you&#039;re saying its a publisher setting. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because a few customer service reps are confused doesn&#8217;t change the policy. </p>
<p>6 kindle devices; unlimited downloads. </p>
<p>would you care to let us know the books for which the 6 devices limit isn&#8217;t true. </p>
<p>and you do realize that its clearly a publisher setting. even if books with a less than 6 devices limit exist, the default for the vast majority of books is 6. your article clearly attacks amazon as being behind the alleged download and device limitations even though you&#8217;re saying its a publisher setting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Cohen</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Cohen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The big fear he’s trying to create is you might have to rebuy your book after downloading it 6 times. Which is utter nonsense.&quot;

That is EXACTLY what I meant when I wrote it and it was EXACTLY what the customer rep told me- even after I asked in three different ways since I had a hard time believing this could be the case. 

When I followed up yesterday it took three different reps to get any sort of a coherent answer to the questions I was asking and, even then, a large portion of the answer to getting clarity on how many devices are permitted prior to buying was, &quot;There is no way to know that but we hope to have some sort of system for it in the future&quot;.

He also told me that your statement that &quot;Its always with you for your 6 devices.&quot; may be generally true but it is not always true as it is up to the publisher and there is no way to know. It was not, in fact, true for some of my books.

At best the DRM policy lacks clarity and needs refinement.

I love my Kindle but even the reps aren&#039;t clear on the specifics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The big fear he’s trying to create is you might have to rebuy your book after downloading it 6 times. Which is utter nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is EXACTLY what I meant when I wrote it and it was EXACTLY what the customer rep told me- even after I asked in three different ways since I had a hard time believing this could be the case. </p>
<p>When I followed up yesterday it took three different reps to get any sort of a coherent answer to the questions I was asking and, even then, a large portion of the answer to getting clarity on how many devices are permitted prior to buying was, &#8220;There is no way to know that but we hope to have some sort of system for it in the future&#8221;.</p>
<p>He also told me that your statement that &#8220;Its always with you for your 6 devices.&#8221; may be generally true but it is not always true as it is up to the publisher and there is no way to know. It was not, in fact, true for some of my books.</p>
<p>At best the DRM policy lacks clarity and needs refinement.</p>
<p>I love my Kindle but even the reps aren&#8217;t clear on the specifics.</p>
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		<title>By: switch11</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[switch11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s a good question. have no answer. 
publishers will do anything they can to slow down adoption of kindles so look for them to try and set some ridiculous limit like 1-2 devices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a good question. have no answer.<br />
publishers will do anything they can to slow down adoption of kindles so look for them to try and set some ridiculous limit like 1-2 devices.</p>
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		<title>By: yokohead</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yokohead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went ahead and emailed Amazon customer service requesting what the DRM policy is - specifically whether there is a per-publisher device limit that&#039;s set,  and if so,  why this isn&#039;t publicized.  If not the case,  what is the actual policy?  

I&#039;m hoping there&#039;ll be more time to craft a considered response without the immediacy of needing to give an answer on the phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went ahead and emailed Amazon customer service requesting what the DRM policy is &#8211; specifically whether there is a per-publisher device limit that&#8217;s set,  and if so,  why this isn&#8217;t publicized.  If not the case,  what is the actual policy?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping there&#8217;ll be more time to craft a considered response without the immediacy of needing to give an answer on the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: switch11</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[switch11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the central issue is how every kindle owner is going to get affected. 
and in those terms the policy is that you can download to your computer or to 1 out of 6 devices as many times as you like. 

Yes, Amazon should clear out the confusion. however, if you look at yokohead blog - they dug up the official policy which says 6 devices. 

This is obvious linkbait by GearDiary. And he says it &#039;eventually&#039; stops letting him download a book. What does that mean - after 100 downloads? after 10 downlaods? 

It definitely doesn&#039;t stop you after 10 downloads. 
The big fear he&#039;s trying to create is you might have to rebuy your book after downloading it 6 times. Which is utter nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the central issue is how every kindle owner is going to get affected.<br />
and in those terms the policy is that you can download to your computer or to 1 out of 6 devices as many times as you like. </p>
<p>Yes, Amazon should clear out the confusion. however, if you look at yokohead blog &#8211; they dug up the official policy which says 6 devices. </p>
<p>This is obvious linkbait by GearDiary. And he says it &#8216;eventually&#8217; stops letting him download a book. What does that mean &#8211; after 100 downloads? after 10 downlaods? </p>
<p>It definitely doesn&#8217;t stop you after 10 downloads.<br />
The big fear he&#8217;s trying to create is you might have to rebuy your book after downloading it 6 times. Which is utter nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: pidgeon92</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pidgeon92]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent response. Thank you for setting the record straight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent response. Thank you for setting the record straight.</p>
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		<title>By: mlt</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mlt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t own  kindle, but how do you respond to this claim:
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Dan Cohen Says:
June 20th, 2009 at 12:08 am

I would be very happy for Amazon to come along and tell me that the information that THEIR rep gave me is wrong. BUT…before I posted I tried downloading one book over and over again and it eventually stopped letting me.

Again, I would be very happy if the guy were just wrong in what he told me and would more than apologize to Amazon for raising the issue (although HE gave me the info) but it certainly doesn’t look that way.

Also, it does look like you can save books to your computer and, I would assume, sync them to your Kindle but since I never heard that there were limits to the number of times you can redownload YOUR books why would I do that? At a MINIMUM Amazon should make a clear statement to do so.
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Could it be that some books are unlimited download, and others limited? Dan Cohen&#039;s article claims it is up to the publisher to decide on the number, whereas you cite a kindle policy of max 6.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t own  kindle, but how do you respond to this claim:<br />
&#8212;-<br />
Dan Cohen Says:<br />
June 20th, 2009 at 12:08 am</p>
<p>I would be very happy for Amazon to come along and tell me that the information that THEIR rep gave me is wrong. BUT…before I posted I tried downloading one book over and over again and it eventually stopped letting me.</p>
<p>Again, I would be very happy if the guy were just wrong in what he told me and would more than apologize to Amazon for raising the issue (although HE gave me the info) but it certainly doesn’t look that way.</p>
<p>Also, it does look like you can save books to your computer and, I would assume, sync them to your Kindle but since I never heard that there were limits to the number of times you can redownload YOUR books why would I do that? At a MINIMUM Amazon should make a clear statement to do so.<br />
&#8212;<br />
Could it be that some books are unlimited download, and others limited? Dan Cohen&#8217;s article claims it is up to the publisher to decide on the number, whereas you cite a kindle policy of max 6.</p>
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		<title>By: yokohead</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2009/06/20/kindle-misinformation-courtesy-geardiary/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yokohead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the callout,  I&#039;ve updated and removed my original raging post.  Won&#039;t be doing that again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the callout,  I&#8217;ve updated and removed my original raging post.  Won&#8217;t be doing that again.</p>
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