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	<title>Comments on: Estimating Kindle Book Sales + Wondering if $23.8 billion book sales will survive</title>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Informative link.

Tidbits:
1.  Technology tends to be disruptive at 20% market share.  Yea... a nitpick versus your 25% guess... And since the market will go from 15% to 25% really quickly, academic at best.  

2.  You didn&#039;t include the fall out effects of less revenue.  I think that will do two things:
  a.  Fewer physical bookstores, thus pushing more people to e-readers.
  b.  Amazon&#039;s model of &#039;if you discount elsewhere, we get to discount your book.&#039;  

2a will reduce the competition a little.  

The big question is &#039;will amazon hold onto the indie publisher market&#039; enough to hold the $2.99 price point?   

Tim:   There has always been an &#039;underground&#039; and discount market for books.  My parents in the 1960&#039;s and 1970&#039;s would loan books to others and they have books that are one step from a rag on their bookshelf.  It was a matter of pride to have 12+ people read your book (and get it back).  So I agree with you that there is a portion of the market un-accounted for that has always been there.  

I think the market will have a shake up and revenue destruction...  But not as bad as some fear.  I just paid for *two* high priced e-books from an author I love.  Well edited and rather *long* novels that are just too heavy to truck to work in paper form.  

Personally, I think the Kindle app for Android is the game changer (as far as market share).  There will be 400 to 600 *million* smart phones sold in 2012.  The gateway to Kindle will be those little screens heavy readers mock.  But if it starts at a book or two (perhaps $25/year), 100 million * $25 is quite a bit of revenue.

E-book growth is &#039;device limited.&#039;  I have trouble getting excited about the Ipad (expected 2010 sales of 10 million) when 100+ million sales are almost here... 

I&#039;m not ignoring my Kindle 2.  I love it as a reader and I persuaded two people to buy them this weekend.  But it isn&#039;t an easy sale for &#039;casual readers.&#039;   

After &#039;Chinese new year&#039; 2011, there will be enough smartphones out there for Amazon to &#039;rock the world.&#039;  Not before... So expect some rapid change in the next 6 months.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Informative link.</p>
<p>Tidbits:<br />
1.  Technology tends to be disruptive at 20% market share.  Yea&#8230; a nitpick versus your 25% guess&#8230; And since the market will go from 15% to 25% really quickly, academic at best.  </p>
<p>2.  You didn&#8217;t include the fall out effects of less revenue.  I think that will do two things:<br />
  a.  Fewer physical bookstores, thus pushing more people to e-readers.<br />
  b.  Amazon&#8217;s model of &#8216;if you discount elsewhere, we get to discount your book.&#8217;  </p>
<p>2a will reduce the competition a little.  </p>
<p>The big question is &#8216;will amazon hold onto the indie publisher market&#8217; enough to hold the $2.99 price point?   </p>
<p>Tim:   There has always been an &#8216;underground&#8217; and discount market for books.  My parents in the 1960&#8242;s and 1970&#8242;s would loan books to others and they have books that are one step from a rag on their bookshelf.  It was a matter of pride to have 12+ people read your book (and get it back).  So I agree with you that there is a portion of the market un-accounted for that has always been there.  </p>
<p>I think the market will have a shake up and revenue destruction&#8230;  But not as bad as some fear.  I just paid for *two* high priced e-books from an author I love.  Well edited and rather *long* novels that are just too heavy to truck to work in paper form.  </p>
<p>Personally, I think the Kindle app for Android is the game changer (as far as market share).  There will be 400 to 600 *million* smart phones sold in 2012.  The gateway to Kindle will be those little screens heavy readers mock.  But if it starts at a book or two (perhaps $25/year), 100 million * $25 is quite a bit of revenue.</p>
<p>E-book growth is &#8216;device limited.&#8217;  I have trouble getting excited about the Ipad (expected 2010 sales of 10 million) when 100+ million sales are almost here&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not ignoring my Kindle 2.  I love it as a reader and I persuaded two people to buy them this weekend.  But it isn&#8217;t an easy sale for &#8216;casual readers.&#8217;   </p>
<p>After &#8216;Chinese new year&#8217; 2011, there will be enough smartphones out there for Amazon to &#8216;rock the world.&#8217;  Not before&#8230; So expect some rapid change in the next 6 months.</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Rose</title>
		<link>http://ireaderreview.com/2010/07/04/estimating-kindle-book-sales-wondering-if-23-8-billion-book-sales-will-survive/#comment-19939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re not taking into account the fact that there&#039;s a huge &quot;second hand&quot; market, sharing, and simple library lending going on already that isn&#039;t figured into your numbers of &quot;sales&quot;, and many of these will simply be replaced by the &quot;cheap&quot; or &#039;free&quot; book options on the kindle... so the drop in total revenue may not be as steep as you necessarily calculate here.  There&#039;s a whole &quot;hidden&quot; market for books that don&#039;t fall under &quot;retail&quot;, and it&#039;s those numbers that I really wonder about once Kindle (and any other reasonably &quot;successful&quot; device or platform) will actually affect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not taking into account the fact that there&#8217;s a huge &#8220;second hand&#8221; market, sharing, and simple library lending going on already that isn&#8217;t figured into your numbers of &#8220;sales&#8221;, and many of these will simply be replaced by the &#8220;cheap&#8221; or &#8216;free&#8221; book options on the kindle&#8230; so the drop in total revenue may not be as steep as you necessarily calculate here.  There&#8217;s a whole &#8220;hidden&#8221; market for books that don&#8217;t fall under &#8220;retail&#8221;, and it&#8217;s those numbers that I really wonder about once Kindle (and any other reasonably &#8220;successful&#8221; device or platform) will actually affect.</p>
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